tooyoung

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January 31, 2010, 06:38 PM

I’ve heard the “myth” around a lot that masturbation is a negative influence regarding hair loss. I’ve seen many replies for and against this but wondering what your experiences and opinions are about it and whether it’s true?

adrian

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January 31, 2010, 06:53 PM

If that were the case surely 99.9% of men by thier early twenties would be bald?

Besides masterbation was supposed to make you go blind wasnt it?

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January 31, 2010, 10:58 PM

adrian—

Interesting that you bring up that figure…since our society has been overly sexualized (as opposed to pre-1960s), MPB has really been on the rise in young males in both their teens and twenties.  We’ll be doing a really good video article on this subject, but I strongly believe based on my findings and personal experience that regular ejaculation can play a large role in hair loss.  It greatly elevates prolactin in the body (a very bad thing for one’s hair), and the nutrients and minerals demanded by semen are large in number, so that once you ejaculate it has to pull those minerals/nutrients from other areas of the body where they would otherwise be used to replenish.

I always figured the “masturbation makes you go blind” was an old wive’s tale, but the link to hair loss is actually pretty real in my view.

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February 01, 2010, 12:21 AM

Sexual intercourse used to be a problem with respect to inflammation on my scalp, however this has completely stopped ever since I have optimized my vitamin D levels in combination with controlling peroxynitrite using Ecklonia Cava.

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February 01, 2010, 09:57 AM

just for another take on the subject how bout this, (totally anecdotal of course, so no references to studies), but. . . .

u have two main chambers in the penis, called Corpora cavernosa, ive always found it interesting, how they fill up with blood to make an erection, and there is 2 main areas (ur temples) that hairloss begins, and this area starts to bald, then progresses to the crown.

then u have some contributing factors, allbeit just theories, about lack of blood circulation, and tightening of the skin in these areas, (ur temples first), theories exist about skull expansion and reduction in subcutaneous fat layer, both of which really result in tightening of the skin.

theres also several theories, either proven or unproven about various hormones and chemicals released after orgasm.

yes im being vague because its all anecdotal, and just my opinion, but what if blood from the temples, (being the furtherest area from the cavernosa’s) gets pulled all the way down to the penis during erection, then after ejaculation returns back to the temples loaded with these hormonal or chemical ‘leftovers’, perhaps an increase in dht, perhaps, something else undiscovered.  The shape of male pattern baldness kind of supports this idea.

All the blood required for an erection has to come from somewhere, and to me it makes sense, that it would first come from the opposite end of the body, and then return to that area, this rebound effect may be needed for the release of neurotransmitters, that makes us feel happy when we have an orgasm, whether its dopamine, or serotonin or something else, needing to be tranported to the brain.

furthermore there may be a connection with the tightening of the skin, that is an erection somehow tightens the skin up the back and all the way up to the temples.

i know i could of been more specific with names of hormones and neurotransmitters etc, but as its just my opinion, (not even, but just another idea) it would be pointless.

I definately think there is alot more going on here than ‘masturbation causes baldness’.  I think theres obviously a optimal level of sexual activity fro everyone that differs as we age, and if u go against this, it messes with ur thyroid, resulting in amoung other things, baldness.  the fact that when u r not sexually active, u only have wet dreams each few weeks or so, (for me anyway) tells me, people having sex or masturbating multiple times a week, is just too much.

tooyoung

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February 01, 2010, 12:55 PM

Have any of you abstained due to this? How often do you think would be a “healthy” amount to masturbate without affecting hair loss at all?

Edit: I once saw a website saying excessive masturbation causes sexual exhaustion and a few of the symptoms I had, including hair loss, more than average sweating and constant fatigue. Do you guys believe this and that if I abstain the symptoms will disappear?

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February 03, 2010, 09:32 PM

Yes, you’ve found the solution to all your problems.

Not masturbating cures cancer!

/unproductive post

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February 04, 2010, 07:26 AM

I admit I didnt take this thread seriously at all at first, but on reflection MPB is related to male genetics and well therefore ultimately reproduction.

Like most of us with MPB I always had a notion it was probably due to a combination of factors rather than just one that led to the condition hence the differing extents and ages of triggering and response to treatments. Im guessing first you need the genetic predisposition and the condition can be triggered and or accelerated by nutritional and enviromental factors. Possibly sex/ejaculation the amount thereof is a factor(hence another old wives tale bald men are virile. Yes it could be related to age in times gone by when they got older they had had lots of kids when mortality was high who knows)

Finasteride/Proscar is a prostate drug which for many has effects on hairloss. Those who take it for hairloss (well some) report reduced libido and quality of thier ejaculate though it might have a positive effect on their hair.

Nidhogge and IMH both both raise intersting points about complex biological balance of vitamins and minerals; that the population as a whole need to be concerned about but those with certain predisposed conditions could be particularly effected by.

What nutrients are lost through excretion/sweating/diaherra/menustration have to be topped up so why shouldnt ejacualtion should be factored. However arent there a slew of studies that say blowing out the pipes is good in relation to prostate health? Not that we should abstain or become monks but if we know what we need to top up on then that cant be bad can it?

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February 07, 2010, 11:41 PM

there has been a couple of times that i was “between” relationships and had been so awfully depressed that i both did not have any sex nor did i masturbate for periods ranging from 2-5 months (keep your chuckles to your self! )and it never made any difference in my hair. but then again, i am only one person

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March 03, 2010, 06:08 PM

I thought I’d pop in and say this… I think there is a reason why this gets talked about so much, and the reason is that SOME OF US CAN FEEL THE INFLAMMATION IN OUR SCALPS AFTERWARDS! (I know Immortal touched on this, but I wanted to add to it).

I have, I guess, a sensitive scalp being that I feel the soreness from laser therapy when many others don’t.  In regards to this thread’s topic, I can totally feel the inflammation immediately afterwards, and I know that this certainly isn’t helpful for fighting hair loss.  I know I’m not alone feeling this either.

So, whatever the reasons for it and whether or not it’s enough to make your MPB worse, I feel that this is the reason WHY people will always continue to bring this up -some of them, like me, actually feel something detrimental occuring on our scalps afterwards (and that part isn’t open for debate), and I think a lot of other people are at least subconciously aware of it. 

If this connection didn’t exist, then NOBODY would have ever said anything about it.  It’d be as absurd as saying “Will cutting my toenails affect my MPB?”  But the fact is, it does get brought up because of that connection, and that’s why I’ve always thought very poorly of people on the other old-school sites that jump on others that ask this question, erroneously proclaiming that they don’t have a thing to do with each other.

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March 07, 2010, 10:22 AM

Backing up O.M.G, I can feel the inflammation directly after it, which is why I thought I might as well ask you lot. You guys can do whatever you like but I’m going to stop, or at the least limit the amount and see how things go.

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March 07, 2010, 09:26 PM

i hate to make a disgusting topic even more disgusting, but try this, obstain, and see who long it is before nocturnal emmissions, and then use that as a bench mark.  for a 20 yr old, it might be 3 days, for a 30 yrs old it might be a week, for a 50 yr old it might be 3 weeks.

i think its just a good indicator of the perfect balance thats right for ur body.  i wouldnt freak out and obstain indefinately, becuase prostate health and stress relief are important as well.

like everything there is a balance to be found.

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March 10, 2010, 07:22 AM

In addition to D3 and Ecklonia Cava -or maybe INSTEAD OF for those of us that are still waiting for the IH6 supplement pack and currently aren’t taking anything- I wonder if using the laser helmet immediately after would help things, even just for five minutes or so.  We know that laser therapy obviously reduces inflammation as shown in this illustration:

...we just don’t know how long we have to treat it.  I’d imagine some of the anti-inflammatory benefits happen pretty quickly, perhaps within that five minute range.  Who knows!

Of course, in this instance, LLLT would actually only be treating the problem and not taking care of the harmful chemicals, so that’s why internals probably would still be needed.

-O.M.G.

PS-  Even if you quit cold turkey, don’t expect anything really profound… at the most, it’d probably just slow down your existing pace of hair loss, and that’d be only after months.  Just my opinion, though

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