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February 08, 2012, 06:13 AM

I hope this isn’t too crude of me to discuss this here. As a forewarning, yes I am going to talk to you about my genitals.

I read on the ImmortalHair forum someone asked JDP whether a laser might be able to treat his varicocele. JDP had posted that he successfully treated varicose veins with a laser. This was his response:

Sounds like a good experiment and worth it to try IMO. I don’t see how it would be a problem with the 635 nm laser.

I also own the 808 nm laser from Aixiz and I never noticed any benefits treating varicose veins. I think it penetrates too deep. The 650 nm (around 50 mW or so) was what worked though. The family member that did this never complained of any pain and was never brought up so I couldn’t say there. But yeah, what happened if I remember right was I focused the beam to a dot and treated right on the vein for about 15 or so minutes at a time. After I’m guessing 12 times or so, spread out over a couple weeks parts of the varicose vein disappeared and looked like a normal vein. Eventually, with further treatment it all went away and only shows a very very mild normal looking vein and not an unsightly varicose vein.

Best advice I can give is to make sure you use it long enough and to focus the laser to a small dot. There wasn’t any discomfort from the laser during and after and the family member said she couldn’t feel the laser. Also, if you don’t get any results, I’d recommend to increase the treatment time or to do more often until you see it starting to break up. Of course you don’t want to burn yourself and IME wasn’t needed for varicose veins.

hope this helps

Does anyone have any extra thoughts, particularly on the safety of using this on the veins etc. around my testicles? On top of varicocele on one of my nuts, the other one has scar tissue around the cords from an infection - hopefully it could help with that too. Also, at how many mW should I worry about protecting my eyes?

I’d like to have a more powerful laser to treat injuries, particularly veins although some are not that near the surface. Hopefully 650 is a good wavelength for this as well.

I will try and email the dude who asked this originally and get his response too.


Edit: Searching around I found JDP’s post in a varicose vein thread on here. I’m not sure if I want to jump straight in at 100mW. Looking at the (supposedly) more reputable Chinese companies for a battery operated pointer, it’s surprisingly difficult to find any below 100mW. Not to mention a good pair of safety glasses costs nearly twice as much as the laser itself!

If I do go through with this I am going to start very low indeed.

 

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February 10, 2012, 03:04 PM

Hey, Eranu!

All I can help you with this is this fact… lasers have been shown to cure erectile dysfunction when irradiating the entire area.  It’s not like Viagra or Cialis or anything that will give you an instant erection, but over time it will help to reverse the causes and set things in motion which will lead to stronger, full erections.  There was a study released on this last year, and I’ll have to post it sometime.

I can’t remember the strength of the diodes in the study off hand, but I’m assuming it was the standard 5mW (and this can be verified), and as many of us know already, 5mW diodes ON TOP OF YOUR SCALP can increase “potency” so there is no doubt they’d work down there.  Anyway, at least the diodes we use for hair loss would be extremely safe -and healthy- for use on your junk.

Now, I don’t know a thing about treating varicose veins except that the clinics do have really strong lasers for this, and I don’t know about using 50mW for 15 minutes -that’s a very, very strong laser being used for a very long time.  I don’t like messing with red laser diodes that are stronger than about 10mW because of the eye risk, so it’s outside of my realm of experimentation.  If I had a varicose vein, I’d probably be playing around with it, but I don’t think I’d use any sort of “full coverage” device -I’d just have one laser and move it around.

The time does concern me, though.  That’s a lot of joules, and those beams are strong enough to do tissue damage over time.  Maybe since you aren’t doing it FOREVER -just until the varicose vein goes away- it’ll be fine.

I’m sorry I don’t have time right now to look into it more, but if I get a few minutes I’ll do some searches!

-O.M.G.

PS- I’m making an erectile function device later this year, by the way.


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February 10, 2012, 03:08 PM

By the way, search for exactly the term “red laser safety goggles” on ebay, and they are a lot of brands for dirt cheap now.  The ones I got were these for $29:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Protection-Safety-Glasses-Goggles-650nm-Red-Laser-/220820879631?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369f3390f

...but they didn’t have those other cheap brands at the time or I would have gotten those instead.


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February 11, 2012, 03:13 AM

Yup, you’ll need a lot of joules for it to work/help… at least for varicose veins. 

I doubt there would be a problem beyond maybe some minor laser hair removal and maybe increased fertility, lol.  Would be much safer than what a dermatologist would do. 

A brief google search says laser hair removal down there is said to be safe

Personally, I skip laser goggles unless I’m treating around the face.  Sunglasses work pretty good but of course if you have the money the laser goggles are always nice to have.

Here are two 650 nm lasers and personally I’d get the 80 mW one as you can start with a wide beam and then narrow the beam if not getting results.

http://www.aixiz.com/store/product_info.php/cPath/59/products_id/301/osCsid/c2d8dafd1f5eaab5671f0e8ee4d64784

http://www.aixiz.com/store/product_info.php/cPath/59/products_id/310/osCsid/c2d8dafd1f5eaab5671f0e8ee4d64784

and a power supply if you don’t have one already =

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Power-supply-110-240VAC-3-2VDC-500mA-clips-/360386902177?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e8bbb8a1

and some electrical tape or similar and your set.

 

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February 15, 2012, 01:53 PM

Thanks guys.

For the time being I have just bought a 5mW laser pen off eBay, though being Chinese it might not be as strong as it says. I might combine it with some supplements and work the dosage up while I look at ordering bits for a more powerful contraption. [Edit: Apparently the cheap Chinese laser pens can be overpowered by tens of milliwatts! I read about people getting 30 even 70 mW devices! So for anyone thinking of getting one, be very careful indeed. I am going to have to try and find someone to measure mine for me.]

I think for my arms or legs I would be more comfortable trying a higher dosage initially since there are supposed to be plenty of back up veins, just in case I screw up.

Eye protection is the one area I really don’t want to skimp on. I’ll have a look at those ones, also I found some reviews on a laser pen forum somewhere that scared me out of buying the Chinese ones lol

 

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