Microscopic pictures of scalp with my therapy.
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March 01, 2010, 11:09 AM Since I started a topical/oral natural therapy and recently started a laser regimen as well, I thought I should document the changes that are happening to my scalp. I started noticing changes to my hair after a few weeks on the topical/oral therapy with increased overall results when I had used a laser for about a month and a half. I have been using a small 50 laser diode unit (moved 3 times) to establish the feasability of making a larger one based on results I would receive. I am in the process of making a 302 laser diode unit and it will be interesting to see how that might increase the results seen. I noticed a thinkening of hair and a proliferation of new hair follicles after starting the combined therapy. So I decided to try and document the changes and see what develops of it in the months to come. I will try to narrate the pictures so that you have some idea of what they are.
Hope you enjoy my chronicling! T |
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[ # 1 ] March 02, 2010, 05:13 PM This is great Tonyb, i will enjoy seeing your results. Did you use just a standard digital camera to zoom in like that, i wouldnt mind documenting my own progress. How long have you been using your topical/oral natural therapy up to now? Also how often will you be updating with pics. |
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[ # 2 ] March 02, 2010, 06:06 PM Crome, I am using a microscope USB camera with about 40x magnification. I do have some overall pics, that, once some new growth and filling is visibly evident, I will post as well. The topicals is something of my own creation and is not something I can divulge right now, unfortunately, as it includes some proprietary formulations that, should I patent later on, would be a problem if I was to divulge them now. Part of the formulation comes from my work with vitiligo. It does not include minoxidil or any pharmaceutical type drug. As far as the oral- I am taking 600 mg (NAC) N-Acetyl L Cysteine in a slow release formulation, 500mg (AL-CAR) Acetyl-L-Carnitine, a general multivitamin and 30 -60 mg of sulforaphane glucosinolate daily. I am lasering 2-3 times a week at 15-18 minutes a time. I will be updating them every so often, most likely if and when things are changing as pictures of the same things with different dates does not really get anyone motivated…lol. T |
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[ # 3 ] March 02, 2010, 06:49 PM Hey tonyb, great pics! I too am using a USB microscope camera to monitor my progress. I have very similar things happening on my scalp and have had for quite some time. I hope those little hairs you are seeing thicken, grow longer and turn into large, healthy terminal hairs but as yet most of mine have not. It is a big step to get from what you are seeing to hair like in your non mpb areas. Also, like me, in your thinner areas you seem to have follicles which are producing only one hair. Again the trick is getting them to produce multiple hairs/follicle. You are seeing progress for sure and here’s hoping it continues but from my experience there is still a long way to go to really cosmetically viable hair that will thicken your mpb areas. Please keep us posted! |
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[ # 4 ] March 03, 2010, 05:13 PM
Is that 15 to 18 mins in each 3 different positions you move your laser to, so total of 45mins + a session.
Well i wish ya the best of luck on consistent results buddy. |
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[ # 6 ] March 05, 2010, 09:20 PM Thanks! I am very encouraged by the rapid results so far. I think it is above and beyond what others have reported in such a short time so I did want to chronicle it as time goes on, so that I have a timeline and “proof” so to speak. I really think that in a few more weeks the overall head pics will be posted as there will be more than enough visible difference to see the comparision. Thanks for the kind words! T |
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[ # 8 ] March 07, 2010, 06:55 PM Well I decided to post some overall before and afters. Now before anyone tries to tear them apart, it is very hard to get consistent pics everytime. I do take the pics in the same light and room so maybe that will help with future ones, but to my eye I am seeing some great growth starting and filling in happening. Well I tried to put pics in and something must have changed as I can’t put the pics in…. well I will when we get this figured out! T |
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[ # 11 ] March 07, 2010, 08:46 PM Send them to me by email. The only other thing I can think of is that it’s just not recognizing one of the pictures -this system won’t allow you to upload anything it doesn’t recognize. Since I’m able to upload multiple pictures from both browsers through a couple of different accounts, I’m thinking the problem MUST be the picture itself! |
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[ # 12 ] March 07, 2010, 09:55 PM I add the pictures one by one and they don’t work either. The picture that did eventually post was the same one I tried several times before when it did not work, then suddenly worked. I’ll email them to you. |
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[ # 14 ] March 07, 2010, 10:26 PM Bingo…. For whatever reason, it was the pictures. I resaved them (and resized them, too, just so I wouldn’t have to wait), but that solved the problem! There was something about those two picture files that this system didn’t like. |
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[ # 15 ] March 07, 2010, 10:29 PM Ok, problem solved. If it happens again, just resave the pictures with whatever program you have. No telling what it didn’t like about those pictures, but it was those two every time. -O.M.G. |
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[ # 17 ] March 09, 2010, 05:08 PM The USB microscope is a Veho Discovery VMS-004 Deluxe. You can pick them up off of Ebay. They are not terribly expensive and add a whole dimension to cataloging and quantifying progress. It does magnification in the range 20x-400x. I think the pics were around 40x and then I have others (not posted) in the 380x range, showing individual hair follicles. T |
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[ # 18 ] March 10, 2010, 06:12 PM Thanks, I found reviews at amazon on this particular USB magnifier/microscope you are using, A lot of users say it only has two “fixed” zooms, a 20x and a 400x. Damn it. |
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[ # 19 ] March 10, 2010, 07:07 PM Do you think you could you really see demodex with that?! If we could see demodex, we could put A LOT of this demodex stuff to rest and help to prove it/disprove it more conclusively than all of the hair loss researchers and scientists together have done -you know, sort of like how we blew the freaking lid off of LASER THERAPY! For starters, we could see if seabuckthorn oil actually wipes them out on contact or not, and we can see if LLLT has any direct effect on them. Yeah, we can see that with a normal microscope, but that doesn’t solve the problem of actually extracting them onto the slide. A scalp microscope could catch them on the scalp, and maybe we could even do the test right there on the scalp. Just thinking outloud… Here is our work in progress for demodex, by the way: http://www.worldhairloss.org/index.php/wiki/Demodex and i,f anyone needed a refresher: ...which obviously anyone can look at and go “Oh hey, that might not be good for our hair.” -O.M.G.
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[ # 20 ] March 10, 2010, 09:53 PM The microscope has a fixed lense that you can adjust the focal distance with- this results in two seperate magnification zones which is determined by the distance the lense is from the scalp. The zones range from 30-40x to 300-400x depending on how far you are holding the microscope from the scalp. Now that distance can vary by a hair thickness and you need to refocus the lense resulting in a slightly different magnification- say from 355x to 360x. I scoured my scalp to find these elusive demodex but could not find any. I do beleive that my topical does eradicate them do to the mineral content so I really did not expect to find them. I have attached a couple of hair bulbs under the higher magnification. |
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[ # 21 ] March 10, 2010, 11:41 PM @tonyb: Thanks for the pictures. @OMG: I posted in the demodex thread, as an M.D. we have treated parasite cutaneous infections before in third world countries effectively with metronidazol 2% ointment (the one for female Trichomonas vaginalis vaginosis), I never trtied seabuckthorn oil, BUT I have tried Peach tree leaves infusion on nasty housefly miasis on diabetic patients and it works wonders. The idea came from a very old and wise M.D. who was E.R’s chief in charge. Also Neem oil DOES WORK on all sorts of parasites. Would like to try the sea cukthorn also. Some of the more knowledgeable topical makers like Zix could create a super formula to totally erradiacate this parasite using the sea buckthorn and also Neem oil and peach tree leaves infusion. Also, intense pulsed light DOES kill this little parasite, so maybe LLLT will kill it too, I would like to grab a manged dog out of the streets and take out some demodex from it’s skin, put some of thos in a petri dish and Laser there asses to death to see if this works. |
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[ # 22 ] June 13, 2010, 07:27 AM I’m still waiting to get the tip manufactured for extraction. My scope is a 400mag. You can see quite clearly the gel mass at the base of the hair and/or the demodex tails at the surface. Extracting these contaminants is the most expedited way to put a dent in the mites colonization of the skin and scalp. I know. I need more picures. |
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